Comments on: Keeping Islam on the DL http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/ African-American culture, news commentary, politics Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:24:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: WeeZie http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3079 WeeZie Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:02:48 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3079 But the wierd thing is that according to Duane, what whites have historically done to blacks and continue to do is all a myth. In this sphere, racism is all just a fantasy and doesnt really exist. Furthermore, according to Duane, poverty is actually going down in the United States, although every economic indicator says other wise. But the wierd thing is that according to Duane, what whites have historically done to blacks and continue to do is all a myth. In this sphere, racism is all just a fantasy and doesnt really exist. Furthermore, according to Duane, poverty is actually going down in the United States, although every economic indicator says other wise.

]]> By: DMG http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3078 DMG Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:11:05 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3078 The unfortunate thing about this medium is that ones emotions don't come through accurately. I, in no way was angry, but I think you already knew that. If you want to goad me into a personal argument with you, you'll have to try harder. If you are truly welcoming me back to the discussion, maybe it would help to at least make an attempt at refuting my statements. I will make every attempt to let you know when I become angry. Pointing the finger at someone from another culture is easy. Pointing the finger in the mirror is difficult. The discussion here seems to be centered around unacceptable human behavior (spousal abuse etc.). I argue that ascribing such behavior to Muslims is akin to what whites did, and still do to black people in this country. The unfortunate thing about this medium is that ones emotions don’t come through accurately. I, in no way was angry, but I think you already knew that. If you want to goad me into a personal argument with you, you’ll have to try harder. If you are truly welcoming me back to the discussion, maybe it would help to at least make an attempt at refuting my statements. I will make every attempt to let you know when I become angry. Pointing the finger at someone from another culture is easy. Pointing the finger in the mirror is difficult. The discussion here seems to be centered around unacceptable human behavior (spousal abuse etc.). I argue that ascribing such behavior to Muslims is akin to what whites did, and still do to black people in this country.

]]> By: VB http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3077 VB Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:03:42 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3077 To DMG, Thanks for the "compliment" (smile) and I'm glad to see that you DID come back to be a part of the discussion after all. So glad you did. You really need to work on the anger though. To DMG,

Thanks for the “compliment” (smile) and I’m glad to see that you DID come back to be a part of the discussion after all. So glad you did. You really need to work on the anger though.

]]> By: Duane http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3076 Duane Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:35:56 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3076 WeeZie, You know the more you comment, the more you underscore my original point, and that is the indescriminate rape and murder of innocent people by the hand of those who claim to represent Islam. WeeZie,

You know the more you comment, the more you underscore my original point, and that is the indescriminate rape and murder of innocent people by the hand of those who claim to represent Islam.

]]> By: DMG http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3075 DMG Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:48:58 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3075 Hi VB, wow, I guess you really told me. The point is there is no real discussion, just comments like yours that are snide and lead nowhere constructive. And having been involved in many of these discussions here almost pleading for civility, and a higher level of debate, I can tell you that facts are often sacrificed for opinion. And I'm sure someone like yourself knows what is said about opinions. What's being done on a number of right leaning blogs (and feel free to check it out for yourself) is a hatchet job on Islam. Now like I've said, from our western perspective and our value system (and the help of popular media) we view Muslims as backward terrorists who all "hate our freedoms", beat the hell out of their wives, and have a death wish. But these are attributes we may find in almost any culture, or religious persuasion. So attempting to say wife beating for example or terrorism is something characteristic of a particular religion is just folly. These discussions usually end without anyone really being enlightened. But thank you VB for setting me straight. Hi VB, wow, I guess you really told me. The point is there is no real discussion, just comments like yours that are snide and lead nowhere constructive. And having been involved in many of these discussions here almost pleading for civility, and a higher level of debate, I can tell you that facts are often sacrificed for opinion. And I’m sure someone like yourself knows what is said about opinions. What’s being done on a number of right leaning blogs (and feel free to check it out for yourself) is a hatchet job on Islam. Now like I’ve said, from our western perspective and our value system (and the help of popular media) we view Muslims as backward terrorists who all “hate our freedoms”, beat the hell out of their wives, and have a death wish. But these are attributes we may find in almost any culture, or religious persuasion. So attempting to say wife beating for example or terrorism is something characteristic of a particular religion is just folly. These discussions usually end without anyone really being enlightened. But thank you VB for setting me straight.

]]> By: WeeZie http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3071 WeeZie Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:52:11 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3071 Dude, you took off the my comment. http://www.juancole.com/2005/03/googlesmear-as-political-tactic-google.html If you are a man, you would keep it. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO, that isnt my web site, that is the site of an esteemed professor of History at the Univeristy if Michigan. You know you are lying. This is crazy. Im not acting like a spammer, i specifically said "Oh my bad, the website didnt allow the URL of the pics under HTML" so here is the site. i only posted it once time. At least of the decency to now lie about the nature of my postings. Dude, you took off the my comment.

http://www.juancole.com/2005/03/googlesmear-as-political-tactic-google.html

If you are a man, you would keep it.

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO, that isnt my web site, that is the site of an esteemed professor of History at the Univeristy if Michigan. You know you are lying. This is crazy. Im not acting like a spammer, i specifically said “Oh my bad, the website didnt allow the URL of the pics under HTML” so here is the site. i only posted it once time. At least of the decency to now lie about the nature of my postings.

]]> By: Duane http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3074 Duane Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:25:36 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3074 WeeZie, Yawn! Do you know how many Liberals like yourself come to this website and claim that I "mess around" with their comments? It's getting old. Anytime (regardless the commenter) a link is included in a comment on this site, the site automatically is placed in a queue. I set this parameter because of the vast amount of spam I get that includes links. As for the particular comment you referred to, I was able to locate it. You are now using postings on this site to push your own site while going off the topic of the original post which is not allowed . If you want to act like a spammer, I can easily treat you like one. BTW: You comment was deleted. WeeZie,

Yawn! Do you know how many Liberals like yourself come to this website and claim that I “mess around” with their comments? It’s getting old.

Anytime (regardless the commenter) a link is included in a comment on this site, the site automatically is placed in a queue. I set this parameter because of the vast amount of spam I get that includes links. As for the particular comment you referred to, I was able to locate it. You are now using postings on this site to push your own site while going off the topic of the original post which is not allowed . If you want to act like a spammer, I can easily treat you like one.

BTW: You comment was deleted.

]]> By: Duane http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3073 Duane Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:22:12 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3073 Saudia, Thank you very much for your response. While Domestic abuse is something that happens in other cultures, I have yet to hear something like this spiking under a particular religion. WieZie, Oh, so I see. Out of all the personal accounts, eye witnesses and numerous analysis that conclude that this whole situation is ethnic cleansing, you come up with the notion that this is nothing more than a battle between Muslims. After checking out your website, I now see WHO is living inside <i>the self-constructed bubble </i> (the links tell it all!). As for slavery, the issue has never been side-stepped on this website. Saudia,

Thank you very much for your response. While Domestic abuse is something that happens in other cultures, I have yet to hear something like this spiking under a particular religion.

WieZie,

Oh, so I see. Out of all the personal accounts, eye witnesses and numerous analysis that conclude that this whole situation is ethnic cleansing, you come up with the notion that this is nothing more than a battle between Muslims. After checking out your website, I now see WHO is living inside the self-constructed bubble (the links tell it all!). As for slavery, the issue has never been side-stepped on this website.

]]> By: WeeZie http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3072 WeeZie Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:14:20 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3072 you took off the website I put up, that aint right you took off the website I put up, that aint right

]]> By: WeeZie http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3070 WeeZie Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:33:11 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2006/09/26/keeping-islam-on-the-dl/#comment-3070 You make many flaws in your analysis and I must point some of them out to you. First of all, you do a very good job of accepting what the media has told you about the crisis in Darfur. The media paints the conflict as one between Arab Janjawid and Blacks. I guess you accept that at face value without realizing that the Janjawid are themselves black. Let me illustrate my point. One of these people are Janjawid and the other isn't...now looking simply at their skin colors, can you guess which is which???? and if you have to guess, than that pretty much proves my point. Another point is that the conflict in Darfur is between Muslims and other Muslims and some of the rebels who are fighting the Janjawid are Islamists(yes, political islamists) I like how you side step the whole slavery issue. Oh yeah, their was this small little thing and it was 400 years of oppression under slavery and African Americans were dehumanized and it was rationalized by using the Bible BUT that has changed. Come on, is racism not a big part of this society??? do the legacies of slavery not exist????? I guess looking at the links on your page, it shows that you aren't facing the continued racism that exists in Oakland or San Francisco or any other large city in the U.S... LOOK OUTSIDE THE SELF CONSTRUCTED BUBBLE! You make many flaws in your analysis and I must point some of them out to you. First of all, you do a very good job of accepting what the media has told you about the crisis in Darfur. The media paints the conflict as one between Arab Janjawid and Blacks. I guess you accept that at face value without realizing that the Janjawid are themselves black. Let me illustrate my point.

One of these people are Janjawid and the other isn’t…now looking simply at their skin colors, can you guess which is which???? and if you have to guess, than that pretty much proves my point.

Another point is that the conflict in Darfur is between Muslims and other Muslims and some of the rebels who are fighting the Janjawid are Islamists(yes, political islamists)

I like how you side step the whole slavery issue. Oh yeah, their was this small little thing and it was 400 years of oppression under slavery and African Americans were dehumanized and it was rationalized by using the Bible BUT that has changed. Come on, is racism not a big part of this society??? do the legacies of slavery not exist????? I guess looking at the links on your page, it shows that you aren’t facing the continued racism that exists in Oakland or San Francisco or any other large city in the U.S…

LOOK OUTSIDE THE SELF CONSTRUCTED BUBBLE!

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