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		<title>By: Patrice</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4208</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any one remember Tawana Brawley? Come on everyone was up in arms about that poor child who was attacked by white police officers. This situation reminds me of that case. Things just dont ad up.  Something is not right. We are not getting the whole story. They young lady and her mother were on the Steve Harvey Show this morning. They were not able to discuss the "case" but the community activist was. A Ms. Cherry was her name. I was disturbed by what I heard. According to Ms. Cherry, prior to Shaquanda assulting the hall monitor, she had herself been assaulted by a teacher and the hall monitor, she was pushed and shoved when whe attemtped to go into the building, at one point she fell and hit her head, causing a contusion. At that point Shaquanda defended herself against the teacher and the monitor. No one mentions this, did it happen? It seems to me that the adults involved in this case are being too secretive. That makes me wonder why this child was actually sent to juvie. I think the sentence was harsh, she obviously has problems, Im wondering if being placed in a facility like that was in her best interest. Especially when a child the same age as she was burned down her families home and was given probation. This child also had previous crimminal infractions prior to setting the fire...Shaquanda was a problem child in school, is that grounds for a trip to juvie? The only difference between these two children is thier race. That is what concerns me. If Shaquanda was white, would she have gone to juvie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any one remember Tawana Brawley? Come on everyone was up in arms about that poor child who was attacked by white police officers. This situation reminds me of that case. Things just dont ad up.  Something is not right. We are not getting the whole story. They young lady and her mother were on the Steve Harvey Show this morning. They were not able to discuss the &#8220;case&#8221; but the community activist was. A Ms. Cherry was her name. I was disturbed by what I heard. According to Ms. Cherry, prior to Shaquanda assulting the hall monitor, she had herself been assaulted by a teacher and the hall monitor, she was pushed and shoved when whe attemtped to go into the building, at one point she fell and hit her head, causing a contusion. At that point Shaquanda defended herself against the teacher and the monitor. No one mentions this, did it happen? It seems to me that the adults involved in this case are being too secretive. That makes me wonder why this child was actually sent to juvie. I think the sentence was harsh, she obviously has problems, Im wondering if being placed in a facility like that was in her best interest. Especially when a child the same age as she was burned down her families home and was given probation. This child also had previous crimminal infractions prior to setting the fire&#8230;Shaquanda was a problem child in school, is that grounds for a trip to juvie? The only difference between these two children is thier race. That is what concerns me. If Shaquanda was white, would she have gone to juvie?</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4209</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,



It looks like you are right on this one. I screwed up here and saw "defecated" as "defaced" in the article. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>It looks like you are right on this one. I screwed up here and saw &#8220;defecated&#8221; as &#8220;defaced&#8221; in the article. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4207</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,



The only source for the "defecate" claim is this here blog.  Looks like you misread "defaced" as "defecated" and then topped yourself by misspelling it as "deficated".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,</p>
<p>The only source for the &#8220;defecate&#8221; claim is this here blog.  Looks like you misread &#8220;defaced&#8221; as &#8220;defecated&#8221; and then topped yourself by misspelling it as &#8220;deficated&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4206</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Duane, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve only seen information that indicated that she defaced school property, and that the school officials later admitted that the property was not in fact damaged at all.&lt;/i&gt;



When this story dips to the point where we are trying to figure out if she did or did not defecate, I know that we just missed the last intellectual "truck stop" on a long road of endless debate.



Crap (or dookie) rarely damages anything. It can be cleaned up easily unlike urine--which can damage. Notice that the article does not mention whether or not if defecation was &lt;b&gt;present&lt;/b&gt;. ANYWAY, this is a semantics issue that has nothing to do with the bigger issue in Paris--the corruption in the juvenile system in that area.



Beyond that, there is nothing more to talk about with this case unless fellow Black bloggers want use the same "underground network" that freely distributed the "taking vs. looting" pics of Katrina and this latest case in Paris to raise scholarship funds for people like Shaquanda. Because I assure you, by December of this year she will be an afterthought in our "sphere".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Duane, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve only seen information that indicated that she defaced school property, and that the school officials later admitted that the property was not in fact damaged at all.</i></p>
<p>When this story dips to the point where we are trying to figure out if she did or did not defecate, I know that we just missed the last intellectual &#8220;truck stop&#8221; on a long road of endless debate.</p>
<p>Crap (or dookie) rarely damages anything. It can be cleaned up easily unlike urine&#8211;which can damage. Notice that the article does not mention whether or not if defecation was <b>present</b>. ANYWAY, this is a semantics issue that has nothing to do with the bigger issue in Paris&#8211;the corruption in the juvenile system in that area.</p>
<p>Beyond that, there is nothing more to talk about with this case unless fellow Black bloggers want use the same &#8220;underground network&#8221; that freely distributed the &#8220;taking vs. looting&#8221; pics of Katrina and this latest case in Paris to raise scholarship funds for people like Shaquanda. Because I assure you, by December of this year she will be an afterthought in our &#8220;sphere&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Spence</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4205</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't say "seldom" because there are far too many spaces black people aren't in.



Duane, I've only seen information that indicated that she defaced school property, and that the school officials later admitted that the property was not in fact damaged at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;seldom&#8221; because there are far too many spaces black people aren&#8217;t in.</p>
<p>Duane, I&#8217;ve only seen information that indicated that she defaced school property, and that the school officials later admitted that the property was not in fact damaged at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, Dr. Spence, you should get your students to understand that racism seldom happens without the cooperation of black folk.  I know you know it - but they've gotta get it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, Dr. Spence, you should get your students to understand that racism seldom happens without the cooperation of black folk.  I know you know it - but they&#8217;ve gotta get it, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dangit! I could not find it. :(



In the future, just do what I do and highlight what you type here and copy it. I've been trying to get to the bottom of this for some time to no avail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dangit! I could not find it. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the future, just do what I do and highlight what you type here and copy it. I&#8217;ve been trying to get to the bottom of this for some time to no avail.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4202</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check your moderation queue for something I posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check your moderation queue for something I posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do a search for it yourself. I think I found it on the Paris News website (sorry, I am out of it tonight).



&lt;i&gt;How do you know the school didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want to put her into a Ã¢â‚¬Å“special educationÃ¢â‚¬Â program for which the mother did not agree? If the mother is part of a group suing the school district, maybe that is part of the reason?&lt;/i&gt;



Think about what you are saying here for a moment. ANY caring parent who know that their child is being a consistant disturbance in school would take matters into their own hands instead of leaving it to the school to give her what she should be given at home. Plus, with a school that is comprised of a high percentage of black students, why would Black teachers testify against her?



Ed, you may not agree with my politics, but com'on man. The mom is cahoots with the New Black Panther party. You know what they are about and that their M.O. is to show out anytime something comes remotely close to racism. That alone tells me that there is more to the story that we are not getting (from her side at least).



At this point I am begining to feel like a broken record, but I believe that the Juvenile system in that area is what should be the center of discussion here.



As far as Waite's comments go, those are very serious charges that he is making considering the fact that both the judge and D.A.'s office are saying something completely different. Don't forget the fact that it is his J-O-B to contradict anything the D.A. is saying. It doesn't make him right or wrong--it is just part of the game. Just like the Duke case, BOTH attorneys will 'stir it up' to their advantage. At this point I am just gonna continue to read up on it...later on. For now, I'm gonna enjoy my Friday night.



&lt;strong&gt;Plus, I also find it very interesting that Waite would choose to use somebody else' blog to make these claims instead of making it formal by issuing a press release like the D.A.'s office&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do a search for it yourself. I think I found it on the Paris News website (sorry, I am out of it tonight).</p>
<p><i>How do you know the school didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want to put her into a Ã¢â‚¬Å“special educationÃ¢â‚¬Â program for which the mother did not agree? If the mother is part of a group suing the school district, maybe that is part of the reason?</i></p>
<p>Think about what you are saying here for a moment. ANY caring parent who know that their child is being a consistant disturbance in school would take matters into their own hands instead of leaving it to the school to give her what she should be given at home. Plus, with a school that is comprised of a high percentage of black students, why would Black teachers testify against her?</p>
<p>Ed, you may not agree with my politics, but com&#8217;on man. The mom is cahoots with the New Black Panther party. You know what they are about and that their M.O. is to show out anytime something comes remotely close to racism. That alone tells me that there is more to the story that we are not getting (from her side at least).</p>
<p>At this point I am begining to feel like a broken record, but I believe that the Juvenile system in that area is what should be the center of discussion here.</p>
<p>As far as Waite&#8217;s comments go, those are very serious charges that he is making considering the fact that both the judge and D.A.&#8217;s office are saying something completely different. Don&#8217;t forget the fact that it is his J-O-B to contradict anything the D.A. is saying. It doesn&#8217;t make him right or wrong&#8211;it is just part of the game. Just like the Duke case, BOTH attorneys will &#8217;stir it up&#8217; to their advantage. At this point I am just gonna continue to read up on it&#8230;later on. For now, I&#8217;m gonna enjoy my Friday night.</p>
<p><strong>Plus, I also find it very interesting that Waite would choose to use somebody else&#8217; blog to make these claims instead of making it formal by issuing a press release like the D.A.&#8217;s office</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/more-on-the-shaquanda-cotton-issue/#comment-4200</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you get the info on defecating?



On the short dress, that's against rules but that doesn't go towards saying the girl is out of control, although she may be.



&lt;em&gt;Plus, if her consistant bad behaviour was due to her Ã¢â‚¬Å“medical conditionÃ¢â‚¬Â why then did her mother keep her in that school if she knew full well that she was causing all of that trouble?&lt;/em&gt;



How do you know the school didn't want to put her into a "special education" program for which the mother did not agree? If the mother is part of a group suing the school district, maybe that is part of the reason?



Here is a comment placed on Cobb's blog:

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&lt;em&gt;

I was appointed to represent Shaquanda on appeal after she was convicted...I did not represent her at trial. There are a few comments that need to be made about the DA's statement.

First, Shaquanda was never offered probation from the DA's office. You don't have to take my word for that, it's in the trial transcript. I filed a motion for new trial as part of the appeal. I called the trial lawyer and asked him if a probation offer had been made. He answered "no." This was never disputed by the DA's office. Later, after trial , I specifically asked if a probation offer had been made. The DA said "no." That ended my enquiry into the plea bargain part of the case, and I filed my appeal with the Texas sixth Court of Appeals. My grounds , among others, are ineffective assistance of counsel and insufficient evidence to remove her from her mother's home to place her in TYC.

One of the things that is disturbing about the release from the DA's office is the apparent lack of knowledge about juvenile law. A juvenile cannot, I repeat, Cannot, be sentenced by a jury. Only the judge can set the punishment.

There are many other "misstatements" about this case. I try only to set the record straight.

&lt;/em&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you get the info on defecating?</p>
<p>On the short dress, that&#8217;s against rules but that doesn&#8217;t go towards saying the girl is out of control, although she may be.</p>
<p><em>Plus, if her consistant bad behaviour was due to her Ã¢â‚¬Å“medical conditionÃ¢â‚¬Â why then did her mother keep her in that school if she knew full well that she was causing all of that trouble?</em></p>
<p>How do you know the school didn&#8217;t want to put her into a &#8220;special education&#8221; program for which the mother did not agree? If the mother is part of a group suing the school district, maybe that is part of the reason?</p>
<p>Here is a comment placed on Cobb&#8217;s blog:</p>
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<p><em></p>
<p>I was appointed to represent Shaquanda on appeal after she was convicted&#8230;I did not represent her at trial. There are a few comments that need to be made about the DA&#8217;s statement.</p>
<p>First, Shaquanda was never offered probation from the DA&#8217;s office. You don&#8217;t have to take my word for that, it&#8217;s in the trial transcript. I filed a motion for new trial as part of the appeal. I called the trial lawyer and asked him if a probation offer had been made. He answered &#8220;no.&#8221; This was never disputed by the DA&#8217;s office. Later, after trial , I specifically asked if a probation offer had been made. The DA said &#8220;no.&#8221; That ended my enquiry into the plea bargain part of the case, and I filed my appeal with the Texas sixth Court of Appeals. My grounds , among others, are ineffective assistance of counsel and insufficient evidence to remove her from her mother&#8217;s home to place her in TYC.</p>
<p>One of the things that is disturbing about the release from the DA&#8217;s office is the apparent lack of knowledge about juvenile law. A juvenile cannot, I repeat, Cannot, be sentenced by a jury. Only the judge can set the punishment.</p>
<p>There are many other &#8220;misstatements&#8221; about this case. I try only to set the record straight.</p>
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